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Gulao -



Quote:

thou,thee

I wouldn't attribute these to 君, as my impression is that 君 is at once more archaic and more
formal sounding, and 汝, while sounding archaic, has a sense of familiarity. "Thou" sounds
archaic, but it is actually a familiar word in practice, like 汝. The problem is that "you" is
more modern, and can sound familiar in some circumstances, but as far as archaic English, you is
the more formal, and therefore closer to 君.



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djwebb2004 -

君不见 is used in modern Chinese to mean rhetorically, "can't you see that....?"










Koneko -

You can say 博君一笑 but if you say 博你一笑，I think most Chinese native speakers will
also understand you. But I don't know why native speakers are more used to say 博君一笑
instead of 博你一笑

K.










Lugubert -

I think it deserves to be mentioned that 君子 often is translated as 'gentleman', 'superior
gentleman', 'refined man' and the like when found in Daoist texts, e.g. in 道德经 31. Not
surprisingly, Confucianism also has this usage; see for example the paragraph on The perfect
gentleman in Wikipedia.










HashiriKata -



Quote:

Confucianism also has this usage

My feeling is 君子 is distinctively a Confucianist term.










Mark Yong -

I read in Mathews' Chinese-English Dictionary, where Mathews' quotes Hu Shih that a formal version
of 汝 is 爾. Would 爾 be more or less distant compared to 君?

Actually, on a broader context, what are all the characters used in Classical Chinese to denote
the 2nd person? I can only think of 汝, 爾 and 而 (this last one seems rare). And now, 君.

For the 1st person, I know they are 我, 吾, 予, 余 (it seems 予 and 余 are interchangeable,
but I cannot confirm this). And apparently, there was a syntactic difference between each of them,
e.g. one of them meant 'I', another meant 'my', etc.










trien27 -

To Koneko:
博君一笑, trying to make someone [the person or persons directly spoken to, most of the time
would mean "you"(singular or plural depending on subject spoken to)] smile [at least] once, came
from Classical Chinese and has a moral story behind it so you cannot change 君 into "ni". Same as
like changing I love you into I love thee or I love thou. Modern people will not converse this
way. It is written down as a part of history. You cannot change history.












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