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roddy -

I'm not too badly off because I used a paid web-proxy which is very efficient (see here) but its
still a hassle having to remember to use it - the number of times I've tried to use the Firefox
search bar today and had to curse . . .



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billybot -

Hey Roddy, does that service work with Gmail?










roddy -

To be honest I'm not sure as I don't use Gmail. It works with flash and javascript fine. However,
as I understand it Gmail uses a lot of AJAX, which might be tricky.

Roddy










roddy -

Just came back for a while. Went again. Hey ho . . .










liuzhou -

How strange! I am having absolutely zero problem here and am on Google most of the day!

Having no Gmail problems either. It seems to be localised.










roddy -

I'm sure it is, and I'm also pretty sure it's not a block, but some kind of network issue - and if
it is a block, it's a kind I haven't seen before.

Reasons:

You get different error messages when you try to load Google when compared with other blocked
sites. News.bbc.co.uk 'times out', but when you try to get Google, 'connection to server was
reset' - this is on Firefox.

Try pinging both sites, and news.bbc.co.uk times out. Google replies to the ping consistently.

Google is still occasionally accessible - twice this morning for 10 minute periods, and that was
just what I noticed.

There'd be no need to block Google - China's proved itself to be quite capable of blocking
sections of Google - the cache, for example - and has keyword filtering technology.

I obviously can't be sure, but it looks to me much more like a network problem somewhere - perhaps
infrastructure somewhere creaking under the sheer weight of Google traffic from China? Sounds
unlikely, I know - rather than a deliberate block.










ocpaul20 -

When something isn't working (my email isn't at the moment - anyway, back to the topic) it is
useful to do a traceroute on the destination. So use Start->run->cmd and when the MSDOS box comes
up, type in

tracert www.google.com

This should show you the different 'hops' (computers on the internet) the internet does before it
gets to the final destination. In this way you can actually see where the hold-up is. I admit that
it only gives the IP address and sometimes the name of the server but you can generally make out
where the 'hops' stop or at least which country they stop.

I have done one as above and it appears to get there, so maybe port 80 (the port browsers use) are
blocked, I believe traceroute uses a different port. Google has been off for me for the last few
days too. Wonder why?
Paul :-)










bathrobe -

I was watching Google last Friday and its behaviour was rather weird.

The first thing I noticed was that google.com (whether in English, Chinese, or Japanese) was
inaccessible.

Gmail was doing flipflops. At first, when the browser encountered "mail.google.com", it suddenly
went haywire and came up with a not accessible message. Later gmail became accessible, and then
inaccessible again. (I was also able to briefly access Japanese Google, but not search results).

Google.cn was, of course, accessible through all this.

Since Monday, everything except google.cn and gmail has been inaccessible.

I got the impression that I was watching the Chinese government (or whoever was operating on their
behalf) twiddling their parameters to fine-tune the block. The desired result? A block of all
Google sites except google.cn, and continued access to gmail -- perhaps it had some fans in the
government!










etcetera24 -

ditto on my end with having trouble with Gmail access since the weekend/ late last week.
Google.com seems to be fine but I constantly get the connection reset error with Gmail. I've
gotten through for sporadic pockets of time during the past few days, but haven't been able to
access the site all day today.

the situation is 非常麻烦, especially since I use gmail as my primary account.










gato -

Those who're reporting problem, could you say who your internet provider is?

I ask this because gmail has been fine so far for me with Beijing's China Netcom, but I hear
others who are accssing it from the campus network are having problems. Chinese universities uses
a special university network that's separate from the civilian world, so could that be the
culprit, so far as gmail is concern? google.com is blocked for me, too. But tor works as a get
around.












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